2023 War for StuCo (Second Communist Revolution) - Revision history

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	* The Royalists/Loyalists		* The Royalists/Loyalists

	The Pro-StuCo group "~~Lead~~" by Gabe N, with [[Hallie Griffin]] as "Queen". Standing up for both the StuCo as they are amazing people who work to make our time here better, and declaring themselves Anti-Communist.		The Pro-StuCo group "Led" by Gabe N, with [[Hallie Griffin]] as "Queen". Standing up for both the StuCo as they are amazing people who work to make our time here better, and declaring themselves Anti-Communist.

	* [[Sarah Thompson]]'s group (I don't know if it has a name)		* [[Sarah Thompson]]'s group (I don't know if it has a name)

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	==== Elijah J. Smith: ====		==== Elijah J. Smith: ====
	"I still believe that we won, yet even today StuCo still oppresses me, all they seem to be are cops who through parties. I, the leader of the communists never agreed to a peace treaty. After Earls Rampage, and Cora shut down StuCo's side, but I made it very clear that the communists do not surrender. In my opinion that is either a stalemate, or a narrow communist win. I still also still believe the students of NSA can unite and rebel again. I also think that arguments are a natural part of life, and while they should not be encouraged, we should not be afraid. At any moment anyone should be ready to argue or fight for what they believe in. I also think that exclusivity and separation are another natural occurrence in life. People seperate into groups of people with similar views as them. Sometimes these groups are large and other times these groups are small. I think that controversy is another part of life. We are not robots, we do not all believe the same things, and some people get offended, thats another thing that happens. In my opinion life sucks, get over it."		"I still believe that we won, yet even today StuCo still oppresses me, all they seem to be are cops who through parties. I, the leader of the communists never agreed to a peace treaty. After Earls Rampage, and Cora shut down StuCo's side, but I made it very clear that the communists do not surrender. In my opinion that is either a stalemate, or a narrow communist win. I still also still believe the students of NSA can unite and rebel again. I also think that arguments are a natural part of life, and while they should not be encouraged, we should not be afraid. At any moment anyone should be ready to argue or fight for what they believe in. I also think that exclusivity and separation are another natural occurrence in life. People seperate into groups of people with similar views as them. Sometimes these groups are large and other times these groups are small. I think that controversy is another part of life. We are not robots, we do not all believe the same things, and some people get offended, thats another thing that happens. In my opinion life sucks, get over it."

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	Fifteen minutes later [[Nathan Rexroth\|Nathan R]] responded, "...visible concern" and over the next few days a couple people jumped in saying he'd better get hyped for this next year. Jared L and [[Michaela O'Halloren\|Michaela]] both made jokes about Nathan being attacked or put on a StuCo hitlist aaaaannnndddddddddd war.		Fifteen minutes later [[Nathan Rexroth\|Nathan R]] responded, "...visible concern" and over the next few days a couple people jumped in saying he'd better get hyped for this next year. Jared L and [[Michaela O'Halloren\|Michaela]] both made jokes about Nathan being attacked or put on a StuCo hitlist aaaaannnndddddddddd war.

	On August 16th [[Jacob Grady]] joined in saying, "i'm here", "does that help?", and finally, "i start war". And so it began, Jacob fired a couple "potatoe"s at Jared L and [[AnneMarie ~~Fitzwalter~~\|AnneMarie F]] (both StuCo members), and it was off. Minor food fighting between StuCo members, Jacob, and anyone else who chose to join in.		On August 16th [[Jacob Grady]] joined in saying, "i'm here", "does that help?", and finally, "i start war". And so it began, Jacob fired a couple "potatoe"s at Jared L and [[AnneMarie Fitzwater\|AnneMarie F]] (both StuCo members), and it was off. Minor food fighting between StuCo members, Jacob, and anyone else who chose to join in.

	[[Cora Metzger\|Cora M]] (StuCo President) brought up [[Anna Barry]]'s Ice Cream Truck, "DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN FIND ANNA'S ICE CREAM TRUCK?!?!" and [[Naomi Eulster\|Naomi E]] (StuCo member) "'''Goes into my shed, rummages around and pulls out the dusty truck'''" (Apparently the truck is back folks)		[[Cora Metzger\|Cora M]] (StuCo President) brought up [[Anna Barry]]'s Ice Cream Truck, "DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN FIND ANNA'S ICE CREAM TRUCK?!?!" and [[Naomi Eulster\|Naomi E]] (StuCo member) "'''Goes into my shed, rummages around and pulls out the dusty truck'''" (Apparently the truck is back folks)

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	=== Ending (As told by Royalists/Loyalists or Anti-Communists/Pro-StuCo) ===		=== Ending (As told by Royalists/Loyalists or Anti-Communists/Pro-StuCo) ===
	Cora Metzger (StuCo President): "To be honest I was pretty busy and wasn't able to keep up with the war near the end. I logged onto teams after being offline for a day, and went to one of the Royalist group chats. Everyone was saying that some people had gotten very...emotionally invested, shall we say...in the war. We agreed it would be best for everyone to end the war. A peace treaty was drafted by the Royalists and sent to the Pro-Communist groups. Several members of the Anti-StuCo/Pro-Communist groups said that this peace treaty meant the Royalists were surrendering. Royalist members asked the others to let it go, but arguments continued until I (Cora M) and Jared Lemmon (StuCo Content Creator) officially shut down the war thread with these messages:
			==== Cora Metzger (StuCo President): ====
			"To be honest I was pretty busy and wasn't able to keep up with the war near the end. I logged onto teams after being offline for a day, and went to one of the Royalist group chats. Everyone was saying that some people had gotten very...emotionally invested, shall we say...in the war. We agreed it would be best for everyone to end the war. A peace treaty was drafted by the Royalists and sent to the Pro-Communist groups. Several members of the Anti-StuCo/Pro-Communist groups said that this peace treaty meant the Royalists were surrendering. Royalist members asked the others to let it go, but arguments continued until I (Cora M) and Jared Lemmon (StuCo Content Creator) officially shut down the war thread with these messages:

	"As StuCo officers Jared and I are stepping in to say it looks like this turned into more than a fun food fight, and it is time to stop. Thank you. Please do not comment on this thread anymore." --- Cora Metzger (August 31, 2023)		"As StuCo officers Jared and I are stepping in to say it looks like this turned into more than a fun food fight, and it is time to stop. Thank you. Please do not comment on this thread anymore." --- Cora Metzger (August 31, 2023)
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	There were no further comments on the thread, and the Royalist group chats died out."		There were no further comments on the thread, and the Royalist group chats died out."

	=== (If either of the Anti-StuCo/Pro-Communist groups ~~would like to write something that should be put here~~) ===		==== Owen Behrens: ====
	Ernest Paul D. Cornejo: " Prior to what Cora had discovered, I was - like several other participants in the war - too emotionally invested into the war. Tbh, it was when I finally lost my steam in an argument that some of the Royalist group members had noticed that the tensions in the war had gone far too high. As Cora had said, when the peace treaty was being drafted, a few of us Anti-Stuco/Pro-Communist members had believed (or hoped) it to be a surrender from the opposite side. Eventually, however, one of the Loyalists - Avi [Reedy] - cleared things up with me in a one-on-one discussion and explained things - that (1) my outburst was wrong, (2) that I (and a few others) were too emotionally invested in the war, and (3) that the war had to end in order to prevent things from getting worse. Eventually, with her convincing, I did calm down and came to accept that the war had indeed gone too far... and Hudson couldn't have agreed more when he explained the treaty to me.		Although I didn't have a lot of time to spend staying up-to-date on the current military events, I had a general idea of what was going on. There were myriad factions on both sides, however, and it was very chaotic. I was a little bit confused about wHY people were fighting against StuCo - they claimed tyrany. However, when I asked them for their specific complaints against stuco, they didn't give any reasons. In response to one person claiming that they were fighting against the tyranny of StuCo, this is what I said:<blockquote>and what tyranny is this? is StuCo holding you down, stopping you from saying what you want?

			I think not. From what I can see, you're fighting just for the fun of it - not for any real cause. it's not like you have even come to stuco with any complaints, ever - one day, you were bored, and so declare war.

			StuCo is only trying to maintain its rightful position of power, eLECTED power, not power forced over the masses by a few who claim to be someone special.We stand for the people. We stand against anarchy, or worse, dictatorship. If the "communists" win, what will stop Earl from assuming the role of "leader," and thus essentially becoming a dictator?

			We already have a leader - one that the people of NSA elected. They have chosen their leader. Will they not now stand behind that choice, and defend StuCo, defend themselves, and defend NSA itself from this anarchy?make your choice. I hope you choose wisely</blockquote>I got no response of any real complaints against the leadership of StuCo. I personally think that either people were bored and wanted to start a war, or just wanted to be the leader of a bunch of students, and so they needed something to fight against. Neither of those things are necessarily wrong - I wasn't trying to end the war because the opposing side had unsupported views. Things did start to go a little bit too far, however. A few people were abusing BoP, and some personal insults were made against individuals on Student Council. In general, tensions were rising, and it was no longer fun, it was just stressful and chaotic. So, we decided that the best thing to do would be surrender/forfeit. Technically, we lost, although some people would deny it. However, we gave up the fight for the greater good, as we did not want things to escalate to the point where admins would have to come in. So, in the end, it could be said that we lost. No one in our group really wanted to surrender, but we all knew that it was the right thing to do. Wars are tricky, folks. If people take it too seriously, tensions rise, and hurtful words can be said. I'm not against role-playing wars at all; I think they can be a lot of fun. I do think we can learn a lesson from the 2023 revolution, though - don't take things too seriously. If people are getting personally insulted, and it's no longer fun, you know things have gone too far.

			=== Ending (As told by either of the Anti-StuCo/Pro-Communist groups) ===

			==== Ernest Paul D. Cornejo: ====
			"Prior to what Cora had discovered, I was - like several other participants in the war - too emotionally invested into the war. Tbh, it was when I finally lost my steam in an argument that some of the Royalist group members had noticed that the tensions in the war had gone far too high. As Cora had said, when the peace treaty was being drafted, a few of us Anti-Stuco/Pro-Communist members had believed (or hoped) it to be a surrender from the opposite side. Eventually, however, one of the Loyalists - Avi [Reedy] - cleared things up with me in a one-on-one discussion and explained things - that (1) my outburst was wrong, (2) that I (and a few others) were too emotionally invested in the war, and (3) that the war had to end in order to prevent things from getting worse. Eventually, with her convincing, I did calm down and came to accept that the war had indeed gone too far... and Hudson couldn't have agreed more when he explained the treaty to me.

	"I don't think that's actually a surrender. I think that people are getting too involved in this and they want to prevent arguments. I agree. This whole thing got out of hand.." -- Hudson Brott (<u>September 1, 2023</u>)		"I don't think that's actually a surrender. I think that people are getting too involved in this and they want to prevent arguments. I agree. This whole thing got out of hand.." -- Hudson Brott (<u>September 1, 2023</u>)

	However, by then, this had left only Elijah Smith holding on to the belief that the peace treaty was a 'surrender'. This then continued on until StuCo officers Cora M and Jared Lemmon stepped in to shut down the thread permanently. The moment the thread closed, the war ended, and all other amends were made. Thus ended the second of the Hostility Wars"		However, by then, this had left only Elijah Smith holding on to the belief that the peace treaty was a 'surrender'. This then continued on until StuCo officers Cora M. and Jared Lemmon stepped in to shut down the thread permanently. The moment the thread closed, the war ended, and all other amends were made. Thus ended the second of the Hostility Wars"

	Elijah J. Smith: "I still believe that we won, yet even today StuCo still oppresses me, all they seem to be are cops who through parties. I, the leader of the communists never agreed to a peace treaty. After Earls Rampage, and Cora shut down StuCo's side, but I made it very clear that the communists do not surrender. In my opinion that is either a stalemate, or a narrow communist win. I still also still believe the students of NSA can unite and rebel again. I also think that arguments are a natural part of life, and while they should not be encouraged, we should not be afraid. At any moment anyone should be ready to argue or fight for what they believe in. I also think that exclusivity and separation are another natural occurrence in life. People seperate into groups of people with similar views as them. Sometimes these groups are large and other times these groups are small. I think that controversy is another part of life. We are not robots, we do not all believe the same things, and some people get offended, thats another thing that happens. In my opinion life sucks, get over it."		==== Elijah J. Smith: ====
			"I still believe that we won, yet even today StuCo still oppresses me, all they seem to be are cops who through parties. I, the leader of the communists never agreed to a peace treaty. After Earls Rampage, and Cora shut down StuCo's side, but I made it very clear that the communists do not surrender. In my opinion that is either a stalemate, or a narrow communist win. I still also still believe the students of NSA can unite and rebel again. I also think that arguments are a natural part of life, and while they should not be encouraged, we should not be afraid. At any moment anyone should be ready to argue or fight for what they believe in. I also think that exclusivity and separation are another natural occurrence in life. People seperate into groups of people with similar views as them. Sometimes these groups are large and other times these groups are small. I think that controversy is another part of life. We are not robots, we do not all believe the same things, and some people get offended, thats another thing that happens. In my opinion life sucks, get over it."

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	Elijah J. Smith: "I still believe that we won, yet even today StuCo still oppresses me, all they seem to be are cops who through parties. I, the leader of the communists never agreed to a peace treaty. After Earls Rampage, and Cora shut down StuCo's side, but I made it very clear that the communists do not surrender. In my opinion that is either a stalemate, or a narrow communist win. I still also still believe the students of NSA can unite and rebel again. I also think that arguments are a natural part of life, and while they should not be encouraged, we should not be afraid. At any moment anyone should be ready to argue or fight for what they believe in. I also think that exclusivity and separation are another natural occurrence in life. People seperate into groups of people with similar views as them. Sometimes these groups are large and other times these groups are small. I think that controversy is another part of life. We are not robots, we do not all believe the same things, and some people get offended, thats another thing that happens. In my opinion life sucks, get over it."		Elijah J. Smith: "I still believe that we won, yet even today StuCo still oppresses me, all they seem to be are cops who through parties. I, the leader of the communists never agreed to a peace treaty. After Earls Rampage, and Cora shut down StuCo's side, but I made it very clear that the communists do not surrender. In my opinion that is either a stalemate, or a narrow communist win. I still also still believe the students of NSA can unite and rebel again. I also think that arguments are a natural part of life, and while they should not be encouraged, we should not be afraid. At any moment anyone should be ready to argue or fight for what they believe in. I also think that exclusivity and separation are another natural occurrence in life. People seperate into groups of people with similar views as them. Sometimes these groups are large and other times these groups are small. I think that controversy is another part of life. We are not robots, we do not all believe the same things, and some people get offended, thats another thing that happens. In my opinion life sucks, get over it."

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			The views and opinions expressed in this article are those of the writers and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of the maintainers or moderators of this wiki.

	== See also ==		== See also ==

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	However, by then, this had left only Elijah Smith holding on to the belief that the peace treaty was a 'surrender'. This then continued on until StuCo officers Cora M and Jared Lemmon stepped in to shut down the thread permanently. The moment the thread closed, the war ended, and all other amends were made. Thus ended the second of the Hostility Wars"		However, by then, this had left only Elijah Smith holding on to the belief that the peace treaty was a 'surrender'. This then continued on until StuCo officers Cora M and Jared Lemmon stepped in to shut down the thread permanently. The moment the thread closed, the war ended, and all other amends were made. Thus ended the second of the Hostility Wars"

	Elijah J. Smith: "I still believe that we won. I, the leader of the communists never agreed to a peace treaty. After Earls Rampage, and Cora shut down StuCo's side, but I made it very clear that the communists do not surrender. In my opinion that is either a stalemate, or a narrow communist win. I still also still believe the students of NSA can unite and rebel again. I also think that arguments are a natural part of life, and while they should not be encouraged, we should not be afraid. At any moment anyone should be ready to argue or fight for what they believe in. I also think that exclusivity and separation are another natural occurrence in life. People seperate into groups of people with similar views as them. Sometimes these groups are large and other times these groups are small. I think that controversy is another part of life. We are not robots, we do not all believe the same things, and some people get offended, thats another thing that happens. In my opinion life sucks, get over it."		Elijah J. Smith: "I still believe that we won, yet even today StuCo still oppresses me, all they seem to be are cops who through parties. I, the leader of the communists never agreed to a peace treaty. After Earls Rampage, and Cora shut down StuCo's side, but I made it very clear that the communists do not surrender. In my opinion that is either a stalemate, or a narrow communist win. I still also still believe the students of NSA can unite and rebel again. I also think that arguments are a natural part of life, and while they should not be encouraged, we should not be afraid. At any moment anyone should be ready to argue or fight for what they believe in. I also think that exclusivity and separation are another natural occurrence in life. People seperate into groups of people with similar views as them. Sometimes these groups are large and other times these groups are small. I think that controversy is another part of life. We are not robots, we do not all believe the same things, and some people get offended, thats another thing that happens. In my opinion life sucks, get over it."

	== See also ==		== See also ==

The Rizzard Of Oz: /* (If either of the Anti-StuCo/Pro-Communist groups would like to write something that should be put here) */

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	However, by then, this had left only Elijah Smith holding on to the belief that the peace treaty was a 'surrender'. This then continued on until StuCo officers Cora M and Jared Lemmon stepped in to shut down the thread permanently. The moment the thread closed, the war ended, and all other amends were made. Thus ended the second of the Hostility Wars"		However, by then, this had left only Elijah Smith holding on to the belief that the peace treaty was a 'surrender'. This then continued on until StuCo officers Cora M and Jared Lemmon stepped in to shut down the thread permanently. The moment the thread closed, the war ended, and all other amends were made. Thus ended the second of the Hostility Wars"

			Elijah J. Smith: "I still believe that we won. I, the leader of the communists never agreed to a peace treaty. After Earls Rampage, and Cora shut down StuCo's side, but I made it very clear that the communists do not surrender. In my opinion that is either a stalemate, or a narrow communist win. I still also still believe the students of NSA can unite and rebel again. I also think that arguments are a natural part of life, and while they should not be encouraged, we should not be afraid. At any moment anyone should be ready to argue or fight for what they believe in. I also think that exclusivity and separation are another natural occurrence in life. People seperate into groups of people with similar views as them. Sometimes these groups are large and other times these groups are small. I think that controversy is another part of life. We are not robots, we do not all believe the same things, and some people get offended, thats another thing that happens. In my opinion life sucks, get over it."

	== See also ==		== See also ==

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	Fifteen minutes later [[Nathan Rexroth\|Nathan R]] responded, "...visible concern" and over the next few days a couple people jumped in saying he'd better get hyped for this next year. Jared L and [[Michaela O'Halloren\|Michaela]] both made jokes about Nathan being attacked or put on a StuCo hitlist aaaaannnndddddddddd war.		Fifteen minutes later [[Nathan Rexroth\|Nathan R]] responded, "...visible concern" and over the next few days a couple people jumped in saying he'd better get hyped for this next year. Jared L and [[Michaela O'Halloren\|Michaela]] both made jokes about Nathan being attacked or put on a StuCo hitlist aaaaannnndddddddddd war.

	On August 16th [[Jacob Grady]] joined in saying, "i'm here", "does that help?", and finally, "i start war". And so it began, Jacob fired a couple "potatoe"s at Jared L and [[AnneMarie ~~Fitzwalter~~\|AnneMarie F]] (both StuCo members), and it was off. Minor food fighting between StuCo members, Jacob, and anyone else who chose to join in.		On August 16th [[Jacob Grady]] joined in saying, "i'm here", "does that help?", and finally, "i start war". And so it began, Jacob fired a couple "potatoe"s at Jared L and [[AnneMarie Fitzwater\|AnneMarie F]] (both StuCo members), and it was off. Minor food fighting between StuCo members, Jacob, and anyone else who chose to join in.

	[[Cora Metzger\|Cora M]] (StuCo President) brought up [[Anna Barry]]'s Ice Cream Truck, "DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN FIND ANNA'S ICE CREAM TRUCK?!?!" and [[Naomi Eulster\|Naomi E]] (StuCo member) "'''Goes into my shed, rummages around and pulls out the dusty truck'''" (Apparently the truck is back folks)		[[Cora Metzger\|Cora M]] (StuCo President) brought up [[Anna Barry]]'s Ice Cream Truck, "DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN FIND ANNA'S ICE CREAM TRUCK?!?!" and [[Naomi Eulster\|Naomi E]] (StuCo member) "'''Goes into my shed, rummages around and pulls out the dusty truck'''" (Apparently the truck is back folks)